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Emma Newman, Chief Revenue Officer, EMEA at PubMatic
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Emma Newman

Chief Revenue Officer, EMEA

“I don't care about your technology. If I don't know you, I don't know, I haven't built a trusted relationship with you, and there's, chances are I'm probably not going to do business with you.”

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Season Six

Recorded live at Cannes Lions · June 2026 36 episodes · Episodes 115 to 152
  • Episode 151: Christoph Berg

    CEO and Founder, MINT Square GmbH
    “I think there is nowadays no bad DSP.”
  • Episode 150: John Morris

    Group Chief Executive Officer, Design Bridge and Partners
    “If we go out there with 30 messages, we're gonna miss our point.”
  • Episode 149: Matt Sanchez

    Chief Operating Officer, Yahoo
    “Audiences may be smaller but much higher intent”
  • Episode 148: Sharon Lloyd Barnes

    Commercial Director, Advertising Association
    “It's almost like an invisible career. It's never really talked about in school.”
  • Episode 147: Brendan McCarthy

    Chief Marketing & Communications Officer, Seedtag
    “Everyone has to have an AI story, right?”
  • Episode 146: Richard Davis

    Co-Founder & CEO, 51toCarbonZero
    “Once you look at the big picture, there is no escape, really.”Sustainability, purpose and inclusion
  • Episode 145: Dr. Ali Alkhafaji

    Chief Executive Officer, Apply Digital
    “I always tell people AI will not replace your job, someone with AI will replace your job, and I think that's the differentiator.”AI in the marketing organisation
  • Episode 143: Sarah Robertson

    Chief Product Officer, Experian
    “AI is an engine. Data is the fuel that you put into it”Data, identity and privacy
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  • Episode 142: Pierce Cook-Anderson

    Managing Director of Advertising, Mail Metro Media
    “Protect the thing you love. If you love it, you have to invest in it.”Publishers and media owners
  • Episode 141: Olaf van Gerwen

    Founder & Global Creative Director, Chuck Studios
    “Do not look like your category.”Brand building
  • Episode 139: Luca Filardo

    Chief Revenue Officer, Adlook
    “It's not just democratisation, it's innovation.”Programmatic, ad tech and supply quality
  • Episode 138: Rob McLaughlin

    Founder & CEO, AUDIENCES
    “I don't think I could do it if I wasn't an eternal optimist”Data, identity and privacy
  • Episode 137: Luis Miguel Messianu

    Founder, President and Chief Creative Officer, MEL
    “We're in the business of optimism.”Creativity and creative effectiveness
  • Episode 136: Lisa Morgan

    Managing Director, Generation Media
    “If the child turns around and says they don't like that brand of car, the parents won't be buying it.”Trust and brand safety
  • Episode 135: Miguel Machado

    CEO, Keenfolks
    “We never start by focusing in efficiency, never.”The future of agencies
  • Episode 134: Katie Mitchell

    Managing Director, Seen Studios
    “We don't wanna be sold anything anymore”Experiential and events
  • Episode 133: Marcus Startzel

    CEO, GumGum
    Attention and context
  • Episode 132: Alistair Hill

    Co-Founder, On Device
    “To measure is to give a score. To enhance is to give a recommendation.”Measurement and effectiveness
  • Episode 131: Emma Armstrong

    CEO and Global Transformation Officer, BBDO
    “You cannot replace people with technology.”Creativity and creative effectiveness
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  • Episode 130: Erin Chin

    Global Head of Brand Marketing, Logitech G
    “I can tell you, I'm a mom of two boys who are 13 and 14, and they watch zero broadcast television. Zero.”Creators and influencer marketing
  • Episode 129: Carmen Rodriguez

    Global Chief Growth Officer, GUT
    “We're a brave agency for brave clients.”The future of agencies
  • Episode 128: Michael Scott

    Global Chief Revenue Officer, LoopMe
    “If you're not building brand value, you're going to lose”Measurement and effectiveness
  • Episode 127: Tracey Shirtcliff

    Founder & CEO, SCOPE Better
    “I call the whole scoping piece the commercialization layer”The future of agencies
  • Episode 126: Tom Murphy

    Chief Creative Officer, VML
    “Advertising is always dying. Get used to it.”Creativity and creative effectiveness
  • Episode 125: Michael Lehman

    President, Americas, Equativ
    Programmatic, ad tech and supply quality
  • Episode 124: Matt Longley

    CEO, Mobsta
    “If business intelligence isn't a bigger revenue driver for us in five years than advertising, then we've done the wrong thing.”Attention and context
  • Episode 123: Fiona McKenzie

    President, Europe, Marketbridge
    “You're not really a CMO, are you? You're transformation director.”Sales and marketing alignment
  • Episode 122: Dimi Albers

    CEO, DEPT®
    “I search in the beginning then I have probably 71 average consideration points before I press a button.”AI search, agents and discovery
  • Episode 121: Oliver Whitten

    Chief Operating Officer, Adform
    Programmatic, ad tech and supply quality
  • Episode 120: Victoria Usher

    CEO and Founder, GingerMay
    “People are interested in people, they're not actually interested in brands.”B2B brand and storytelling
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  • Episode 119: Jennifer Kattula

    GM & CMO, Microsoft Advertising
    “Everything will start to sound the same, everything will start to look the same.”AI search, agents and discovery
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  • Episode 118: Christine C. Cook

    Chief Commercial Officer, Bloomberg Media
    “I think they were blunt instruments that were used in the beginning”Publishers and media owners
  • Episode 117: Cindy Gallop

    Founder & CEO, MakeLoveNotPorn
    “I am out to prove you can scale love, and I'm scaling love.”Sustainability, purpose and inclusion
  • Episode 116: Sir Martin Sorrell

    Executive Chairman, S4 Capital
    “It isn't fragmenting. It's concentrating.”The future of agencies
  • Episode 115: Mark Ritson

    Founder, MiniMBA
    Brand building

All seasons

Season Five

Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe · May 2026 36 episodes · Episodes 77 to 113

Season Four

Recorded live at Advertising Week New York · October 2025 26 episodes · Episodes 48 to 76

Season Three

Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe · May 2025 15 episodes · Episodes 31 to 46

Season Two

Recorded live at Advertising Week New York · October 2024 12 episodes · Episodes 20 to 43

Season One

Recorded live at Advertising Week Europe · May 2024 18 episodes · Episodes 1 to 19

Specials

Off-schedule recordings 8 episodes

About Business of Marketing episodes

All 152 episodes of Business of Marketing, organised by season. In-depth conversations with senior marketing, media, technology, and commercial leaders shaping business growth.

Episodes cover 26 topics across six areas: AI, brand and creativity, customers and growth, media and advertising, data and measurement, and leadership and organisation. Topics include AI search and agents, measurement and effectiveness, brand building, B2B demand and pipeline, retail and commerce media, and the future of agencies.

Recent guests include senior leaders from PubMatic, MINT Square GmbH, Design Bridge and Partners, Yahoo, Advertising Association, Seedtag, 51toCarbonZero, Apply Digital, Fluent, Experian, Mail Metro Media, Chuck Studios, LiveRamp, Adlook, AUDIENCES, MEL, Generation Media, Keenfolks, Seen Studios, GumGum.

Episodes are recorded in studio, at industry events including Cannes Lions and Advertising Week, on location, and remotely. Business of Marketing is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, YouTube, and Podbean.

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Business of Marketing has published 152 episodes across 6 seasons, with new episodes weekly. Episodes are recorded in studio, at industry events including Cannes Lions, on location, and remotely.

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Guests include senior marketing and commercial leaders from companies including LinkedIn, Adobe, Google, Salesforce, Klaviyo, IBM, Snap, Magnite, Yahoo, LG Ad Solutions, Dentsu, and the San Francisco 49ers. The full slate includes CMOs, founders, presidents, CROs, and VP-level operators.

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Episodes are grouped into six areas: AI, brand and creativity, customers and growth, media and advertising, data and measurement, and leadership and organisation. Topics within them include AI search and agents, measurement and effectiveness, brand building, B2B demand and pipeline, retail and commerce media, connected TV and streaming, creators and influencer marketing, and the CMO and the boardroom.

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